In their first-ever joint interview, Jaden and Willow, the adorable spawn of Will and Jada Pinkett Smith, take us down the rabbit hole of human consciousness maybe only a handful of us earthlings will ever have the pleasure of fully understanding. Meditation, prana and duality are just a few of the subjects tackled by these Hollywood star children in their New York Times T Magazine interview. Also, timelessness, fetal wisdom, higher consciousness and melancholia. You will likely be intrigued by their teenage cerebral capacity and non emoji-fied words.
The internet has already done a fine job of pointing out the bizarrities that lie within the interview responses/vast chasms that are minds of these 14 (Willow) and 16 (Jaden) year olds, or, rather, the ageless, formless beings of the profound, expansive universe.
This all sounds a bit like dramatic hyperbole, that is until you read the actual words of the interview. Some might remember “Whip Your Hair” singer Willow’s been spotted going to yoga class with her mom and that she’s a fan of the practice. But we could bet you hadn’t any idea the yogi river runneth so deep.
The youngins’ thoughts on breathing, meditation and prana energy are refreshing, inspiring, sophisticated (especially for teenagers) and, yes, maybe a bit odd as they evolve into thoughts on babies forming in the womb.
You mentioned breathing earlier, and it’s also an idea that recurs in your songs.
WILLOW: Breathing is meditation; life is a meditation. You have to breathe in order to live, so breathing is how you get in touch with the sacred space of your heart.
JADEN: When babies are born, their soft spots bump: It has, like, a heartbeat in it. That’s because energy is coming through their body, up and down.
WILLOW: Prana energy.
JADEN: It’s prana energy because they still breathe through their stomach. They remember. Babies remember.
WILLOW: When they’re in the stomach, they’re so aware, putting all their bones together, putting all their ligaments together. But they’re shocked by this harsh world.
JADEN: By the chemicals and things, and then slowly…
WILLOW: As they grow up, they start losing.
JADEN: You know, they become just like us.
You might also appreciate their take on time, or the lack thereof.
I’m curious about your experience of time. Do you feel like life is moving really quickly? Is your music one way to sort of turn it over and reflect on it?
WILLOW: I mean, time for me, I can make it go slow or fast, however I please, and that’s how I know it doesn’t exist.
JADEN: It’s proven that how time moves for you depends on where you are in the universe. It’s relative to beings and other places. But on the level of being here on earth, if you are aware in a moment, one second can last a year. And if you are unaware, your whole childhood, your whole life can pass by in six seconds. But it’s also such a thing that you can get lost in.
WILLOW: Because living.
JADEN: Right, because you have to live. There’s a theoretical physicist inside all of our minds, and you can talk and talk, but it’s living.
WILLOW: It’s the action of it.
The Smith kids both have new albums coming out. When asked about how their music has gotten better, the two share their thoughts on consciousness, duality and bouncing things off both hemispheres of the brain.
How have you gotten better?
WILLOW: Caring less what everybody else thinks, but also caring less and less about what your own mind thinks, because what your own mind thinks, sometimes, is the thing that makes you sad.
JADEN: Exactly. Because your mind has a duality to it. So when one thought goes into your mind, it’s not just one thought, it has to bounce off both hemispheres of the brain. When you’re thinking about something happy, you’re thinking about something sad. When you think about an apple, you also think about the opposite of an apple. It’s a tool for understanding mathematics and things with two separate realities. But for creativity: That comes from a place of oneness. That’s not a duality consciousness. And you can’t listen to your mind in those times — it’ll tell you what you think and also what other people think.
WILLOW: And then you think about what you think, which is very dangerous.
So where on earth has all of this fascinating talk come from? Well, it could be their parents, it could be their friends, it could be their mentors and teachers (their parents have been notoriously tied to Scientology) or maybe it’s the books they’re reading…?
WILLOW: Quantum physics. Osho.
JADEN: “The Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life” and ancient texts; things that can’t be pre-dated.
In any case, these two kids, with their ambitions to be the “craziest person of all time” and “climbing as many mountains as we can possibly climb” by the time they’re officially adults, are certainly well on their way to lives filled with opportunities. Sure that’s not too surprising when your parents are Will and Jada Pinkett Smith, who are yoga fans by the way, but no doubt their children seem to be carving out their own very interesting paths to whichever levels and other realms they may lead. Because living.