It’s just Pema Chödrön and Oprah chatting and chillaxing on a Sunday afternoon sipping from their coffee mugs like gal pals do. Pema was a recent guest on Oprah’s “Super Soul Sunday” which is basically the Super Bowl for spirituality, where the two conversed about “what to do when your life falls apart,” “why fear is nothing to be afraid of” and “how to let go and accept change.” So yeah, your average brunch-y girl talk.
If you know anything about author and Tibetin Buddhist nun Pema Chödrön, you’re already aware of her infinite wisdom and uplifting words reminding us that it’s not all light and love, but how that is OK.
One of our favorite Pema quotes comes from When Things Fall Apart: Heart Advice for Difficult Times: “Rather than letting our negativity get the better of us, we could acknowledge that right now we feel like a piece of shit and not be squeamish about taking a good look.”
Another wonderful book (though she has many) to check out if you haven’t: How to Meditate: A Practical Guide to Making Friends With Your Mind
In her talk with Mother O, Pema lays it out about failure: “The most important thing is to know how to fail really well.”
More about the episode via Oprah.com:
Oprah is joined by Pema Chödrön, an American-born Tibetan Buddhist nun and best-selling author, for an uplifting conversation about her spiritual journey and the importance of finding inner contentment. Pema, the principal teacher at Gampo Abbey, a monastery in Nova Scotia, Canada, talks with Oprah about ways to deal with life’s difficult moments and the value of embracing fear and suffering. As one of the first Western women to be fully ordained as a Tibetan Buddhist nun, in 1981, she believes we all have the capacity to awaken to fuller, more conscious lives. Oprah and Pema also discuss Pema’s book When Things Fall Apart: Heart Advice for Difficult Times.
Watch the full episode below!